[turbosilv2003]

Has anyone ever made a homeade version of the hendrix intake that goes infront of the fender well?
If someone has, is there enough air flow down there?
Does it get dirty? Would a frog skin cover help?

I would love an otr. But tight now i cant justify the price.

I have done some looki g and cant see any pictures on a write up svede has done a long time ago.

Also looking for info on the omega thermistor upgrade. Again. I can find the write ups, but see no pics

 

[Nothubertjfarnsworth]

look up hardcore intake.

fwiw it only works on 04's because they don't have the coolant overflow tank in the fenderwell like the 05/06 cars do.

 

[Nothubertjfarnsworth]

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[turbosilv2003]

So after doimg some more looking on this i have a few questions... I have an 04, so the maf is different than the 05-06.. Can i move my maf closer to the filter is i do the hardcore style intake? And the omega mod. Does that require me to change anything via hp tuners? Or does i just work?
Also, can i move the iat closer to the filter to "trick" the computer into thinking im gettimg cooler air even though by the time it gets back to the engine its more than likely hotter than at the filter?

 

[Rich-Tripower]

The MAF can be anywhere in the air stream as long as additional air is not added to the air stream after the MAF.

The fast acting IAT sensor is plug and play and doesn't require any changes to the tune.

"Tricking" the computer with placing IAT in a spot where it measures cooler than what the temp is that is actually going into the engine is kind of counterproductive. People mostly move the IAT around to avoid heat soak, not to trick it. At the end of the day, you want the IAT where it can accurately measure the temp of the air going into the engine while also avoiding measuring hotter because the IAT itself is getting hot (heat soak).

 

[BroPeep]

I would place the MAF 2/3rds up the straightest part.

I have an 100mm LS3 style card maf and break out that I was going to use with my "hardcore" setup but ended up going SD if you are interested

 

[Sacrifice]

I wouldnt bother with the fast acting. Imo the oem 04 sensor is fast enough per ecu scanning. Tje 05-06 benefits from a breakout but still think the FIAT isnt really doing much

 

[turbosilv2003]

The MAF can be anywhere in the air stream as long as additional air is not added to the air stream after the MAF.

The fast acting IAT sensor is plug and play and doesn't require any changes to the tune.

"Tricking" the computer with placing IAT in a spot where it measures cooler than what the temp is that is actually going into the engine is kind of counterproductive. People mostly move the IAT around to avoid heat soak, not to trick it. At the end of the day, you want the IAT where it can accurately measure the temp of the air going into the engine while also avoiding measuring hotter because the IAT itself is getting hot (heat soak).

I guess "tricking" was a poor choice of words. Im just looking for exactly what you said. Less heat soak. So if i keep the iat in the engine bay bit closer to the filter ill more than likely experience less heat soak.

 

[turbosilv2003]

I wouldnt bother with the fast acting. Imo the oem 04 sensor is fast enough per ecu scanning. Tje 05-06 benefits from a breakout but still think the FIAT isnt really doing much

Is switching to the card style maf a thing for the 04?

 

[Sacrifice]

Is switching to the card style maf a thing for the 04?

If you want. Not a lot of benefit unless youre stock maf is the restriction.

 

[Mick Naughty]

I have my intake routed to infront of the tire like the power chamber. Gets about the same amount of road grim as my otr used to get. I dont have a maf as I want to use a flex sensor and I'm on a stock ecu. Seems to get enough air though my intake in general is bad for airflow for an FI setup.

 

[vanrah]

Greetings Guys; I opened this post excepting a conversation about "intakes", like in the term "Intake Manifold"! But I see it's youngin" that is tryin' to change the terms we have using since the early 1900's. I was under he impression that an "Intake" was after the Throttle Plate (s). But some how the air filter assembly - "Filter InLET" assembly is now the intake?? In the 90's when we started moving the air filter off the top of the carburetor more often the term Air filter box (usually plastic) popped up & many, me included had(?) used the term "air box". I think I heard or seen the term relating to NASCAR. Hence the filter word got dropped to "InLET box or Air box" with or without filter. So in closing I'll post what some of us Ole' guys call an Intake. I feel better now, Ole' Bob.

 

[turbosilv2003]

Greetings Guys; I opened this post excepting a conversation about "intakes", like in the term "Intake Manifold"! But I see it's youngin" that is tryin' to change the terms we have using since the early 1900's. I was under he impression that an "Intake" was after the Throttle Plate (s). But some how the air filter assembly - "Filter InLET" assembly is now the intake?? In the 90's when we started moving the air filter off the top of the carburetor more often the term Air filter box (usually plastic) popped up & many, me included had(?) used the term "air box". I think I heard or seen the term relating to NASCAR. Hence the filter word got dropped to "InLET box or Air box" with or without filter. So in closing I'll post what some of us Ole' guys call an Intake. I feel better now, Ole' Bob. View attachment 525037

Im referring to a cold air intake. Te hnically there will be no air box witht the set up im trying to achieve. I see where youre comimg from for sure. But as long as i e been alive (32 years) its always been an "air intake"

 

[turbosilv2003]

I have my intake routed to infront of the tire like the power chamber. Gets about the same amount of road grim as my otr used to get. I dont have a maf as I want to use a flex sensor and I'm on a stock ecu. Seems to get enough air though my intake in general is bad for airflow for an FI setup.

Im stock as far as the engine goes. I do have a cs ra ing cabon fiber intake elbow but thats it. How often would you clean your otr? I also planned on trying to run a filter skin to help reduce some of the road grime. Im not super worried about water as i dont drive much in the rain if at all. Honestly im trying to get rid of some heat soak. Ive noticed these cars like to be hot under the hood. Plus my air filter is currently just routed in the engine bay behind the headlight (i have an 04).

 

[turbosilv2003]

If you want. Not a lot of benefit unless youre stock maf is the restriction.

Probably not homestly the engine is stock as fsr as i know. Im just trying to move everything away from the heat asuch as i can

 

[Nothubertjfarnsworth]

The MAF can be anywhere in the air stream as long as additional air is not added to the air stream after the MAF.

The fast acting IAT sensor is plug and play and doesn't require any changes to the tune.

"Tricking" the computer with placing IAT in a spot where it measures cooler than what the temp is that is actually going into the engine is kind of counterproductive. People mostly move the IAT around to avoid heat soak, not to trick it. At the end of the day, you want the IAT where it can accurately measure the temp of the air going into the engine while also avoiding measuring hotter because the IAT itself is getting hot (heat soak).

to add, i believe that it is best practice to put the MAF at least 6" downstream from a bend. the farther the stretch of straight pipe before the MAF the better.

airflow likes to bunch up along the outside radius of a curve due to inertia, so it takes a little bit of length for things to "even back out."

 

[Nothubertjfarnsworth]

Probably not homestly the engine is stock as fsr as i know. Im just trying to move everything away from the heat asuch as i can

the stock intake already gets "cold air." even though the plastic parts get hot, they transfer very little heat energy per unit of airmass to the air going into the engine. that air moves very quickly, especially at high engine loads/speeds, so it's really pretty close to ambient as it enters the engine.

if you're going to leave it stock, just get a breakout harness and drop a stock IAT somewhere that gets airflow and that's as far away from the engine heat as possible. drop in k&n filter, and make sure the stock intake isn't missing any peices.

if you plan on modding, then get an aftermarket intake. the stock intake is only suitable for a stock engine.

 

[turbosilv2003]

to add, i believe that it is best practice to put the MAF at least 6" downstream from a bend. the farther the stretch of straight pipe before the MAF the better.

airflow likes to bunch up along the outside radius of a curve due to inertia, so it takes a little bit of length for things to "even back out."

This makes sense. It kind of act like a fast moving river or stream on a bend. I believe this same principal is ehy the recommend keeping the honeycomb structure on the maf to help "straighten" the air back out.

Im just trying to achieve the coolest air possible into the motor honestly. Ive done a bunch of reading on the style intake i want to achieve. Just talking out the logistics with people who actually have had their vehicles tuned/people with more knowledge than me helps out lol

 

[turbosilv2003]

the stock intake already gets "cold air." even though the plastic parts get hot, they transfer very little heat energy per unit of airmass to the air going into the engine. that air moves very quickly, especially at high engine loads/speeds, so it's really pretty close to ambient as it enters the engine.

if you're going to leave it stock, just get a breakout harness and drop a stock IAT somewhere that gets airflow and that's as far away from the engine heat as possible. drop in k&n filter, and make sure the stock intake isn't missing any peices.

if you plan on modding, then get an aftermarket intake. the stock intake is only suitable for a stock engine.

So cutrently i habe a csrbon fiber cs racing intake elbow from the throttle body to the maf, then after that its a 6 or so inch straight pipe with like a 45° radius to the cone filter which is stuck behind the headlight.

My vision Here is to angle that down and go through into infront of the tire and terminate with a filter. I plan on putting the iat just above the filter in the engine bay. Unless putting in down by the filter would be the more ideal spot.

 

[Nothubertjfarnsworth]

as long as it's in the intake airflow you're fine.