Playing the violin for ya my man, sorry, but to generalize your experience about the entire GTOAA is horseshit...Easily? EASILY? Are you fookin' kidding me?
So now, it's MY fault, and others that have similar experiences? That may be biggest load of horseshit I've ever read on this board.
I was just speaking of my own experiences. Please explain to me how that is generalizing? And if I have heard similar descriptions from all over the country on this board, are those also generalizations? Pfft, way to spin your interests. I can say is that the HGH put the effort in, and it was a total waste of time. It was rather insulting, actually. Oh, I shouldn't bring that up? Why? Oh right....because that doesn't help you much. *sniff* I'm so sorry....Sorry, but to generalize your experience about the entire GTOAA is horseshit...
Yeah, I'm sure you are.Playing the violin for ya my man
I personally find that statement highly insulting. I went to many events, including being one of 6 04 cars at the 04 nationals. I walked the walk. Talked to everyone I could. I know my GTO's I used to own a 68 convertible. I attended many a show run by my local GTOAA chapter. At every one we as a group received nothing but insults. The only people at the shows that showed any enthusiasm for our cars were the club leaders. And looking back I'm not sure I trust the sincerity in that.I think HRJ and others (as did I very early on) contributed to the problem by easily becoming offended by the haters. I'm sure these silly Monaro conversions didn't help either?! LOL, I'm kidding... I still think the "general" population embraces the new cars and their owners.
Dan, I've known you on here a long time. I don't have any doubt that your motivations are genuine and that your heart is in the right place. I hope you don't take anything I post here personally. Like I've told you before, when it comes down to it, I consider you one of the "good guys."To clear the air about the curiosity of what was called a "sudden push" from GTOAA to reach out to the late-model owners.
It is two fold. One, the Directors decided the Association needed a Public Relations person, so that's me. Yeah, they choose a dyed-in-the-wool late model GTO owner and a relatively new GTOAA member, so I suggest that bodes well for our community. I have tons of experience working with non-profit organizations (GTOAA is a non-profit). It's a brand new position and we have been looking at how to reach out to ALL GTO owners (there are classic GTO owners who do not belong to GTOAA, either). There wasn't someone working these specific issues until this year and collectively we have all been figuring out how to best use me. BTW, there is a dude focused on bringing in more new members (Membership Coordinator), but that ain't me.
I will not speak for Bob A., but since convention and all the board meetings are in the record books, the direction for the next year have been set. I have as one of my objectives set forth by the Directors this next year is to build better relations with late-model GTO owners. That is why I am seeking the input of the 04-06 owners and looking at ya'lls interest.
I know there is some bad blood and for good reason. I have been going to car shows and the track, was at the 07 Nats, and have followed all the discussions over the years and have walked in the same shoes of the many here. I was a LS1GTO member before I was a GTOAA member, so you can believe I have some context and not just wearing rose colored glasses here.
I am not asking anyone to ignore their past treatment, but only looking for the few who are ready to look to the future and help make GTOAA better when it comes to acceptance and inclusion of late-model GTOs. I thank those who remind us about the past and the hurdles they have encountered, but I suggest the entire body of GTOAA has pockets of good examples, too. But for those who are not in an area of acceptance, I suggest the idea of late model specific chapters are that much more appealing.
Keep the dialog and suggestions coming, people are making notes.
so what? that doesn't speak for every old owner. And as we said, not all old owners were bad to us, but like it or not, there are one's that still are and thats a fact. It was proven at the cruisn tigers indian uprising show a few weeks ago.So talking to more classic GTO owners at Pontiac Nationals today a common thread has appeared and that is...a lot of the classic racers who came over to talk to us have already bought or a looking into buying late model GTO's .... now how about that for guys that supposedly hate our car.
What type of show was this 100 cars and 25 of them was new Gen. GTO's??? how many old gen. GTO????I could pretty agree with the respect thing. I attended a car show yesterday. There were 100 cars entered and 13 awards and a dealers choice. There were 20-30 04-06 GTOs. They drew alot of interest, but when the winners were announced, not one won an award. In my opinion, 3-4 had a good chance to take one of the 13 awards. Do I care about a trophy? NO.... but that would shown we do some respect from the old owners.
Even sadder was the fact two groups of 04-06 owners traveled over 100 miles to attend. I did however enjoy the ride.