[itsme4g63]

Hey aussie people, are you 05-06 or ls2/hsv monaros build with such crap quality like the ones we get here? Got leaky struts, unties wires, fading paint, door material coming off, engines blowing up. I swear, the best year must have been 04, sure you dont get the extra 50hp liek the ls2 or the power doorlock switch but you sure ass hell dont get the problems that come with them as well. :drink:

 

[Ironmancan]

Trade yours in and quit whining:whine:. Mine and others have been fine with no problems. Not all. Feel free to speak for yourself but not for all the 05/06 owners.:fawkdance

Edit: BTW I know your new but they build our cars.

 

[dctex99]

Don't think the 04's were any better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Trade yours in and quit whining:whine:. Mine and others have been fine with no problems. Not all. Feel free to speak for yourself but not for all the 05/06 owners.:fawkdance

Mine came with a DEAD RADIO, crappy paint, and numorous small flaws....I asked my Pontiac/Buick/Cadillac Service Manager if he had EVER gotten any other of his cars in with a Dead Radio,,,and such Crappy paint,,,he said it would never leave the building in US/Canada or even Mexico Plants they use,,AND he admits that the paint is terrible; but they just cannot paint every car; so I will eat it when I trade someday,,,lots of chips,,and averages 24 miles per hour in rush hour traffic every day.....a Pathetic car...AS I have told one of my underlings,,your are LUCKY you have an American CAr(Toyota made in USA), the Australian FOREIGN cars are crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[itsme4g63]

I do not have a gto myself, yet. Friend has an 04 and was totally bummed out when he heard 05 was to bring 50hp standard, dual exhaust and a better bodkit. After reading these forums for the past two months on how many problems 05-06 gtos have I have come to a concluision that the 04 is the one to get. I was just wondering if the gto australian counterparts/customers are having problems like these with their cars.

 

[Ironmancan]

I do not have a gto myself, yet. Friend has an 04 and was totally bummed out when he heard 05 was to bring 50hp standard, dual exhaust and a better bodkit. After reading these forums for the past two months on how many problems 05-06 gtos have I have come to a concluision that the 04 is the one to get. I was just wondering if the gto australian counterparts/customers are having problems like these with their cars.

LOL, remember they build our cars and ship them to us. All cars lines have issues I don't care what the make. You'll find 04 owners here that would not trade for an 06 and 06 owners that won't trade for an 04. So what.

I've had the pleasure of hanging out with 04,05 owners and of course mine's an 06. I've got 16,000 trouble free miles out of mine and I don't personnally know anyone who's purchased a bad GTO. Minor differences between years but the cars still essentially the same and you might want to dig a little deeper 04's had there hiccups too.

 

[PeteyPete]

There isn't an inordinate amount of problems w/ 05', though there is an acknowledged issue w/ the '06 struts. But everyone knows there are issues w/ every type or brand of car, including 4G63's....I can't tell you how many times my old Mitsu needed tranny work.

The people who come on the forums are those who have problems and are looking for advise. How many threads do you see on the forums where people say "I HAVE 20K MILES, TROUBLE FREE...JUST WANTED TO SHARE!"? None, b/c no news is good news and the people on the forums are those who have issues.

If you took every complaint on the forums as gospel, you'd believe that ALL M3's used to have exploding engines, Mitsu's have horrible trannys, and Toyota's are sludge machines.

Given the above problems that plague other manufacturers, I'll take my burnt out LED, and rattle in the shifter.

 

[isszy]

The Monaro / GTO is built on the same line as both the bread and butter Commodores and upmarket Statesman/Caprice, so build quality is pretty consistent across all Holdens.

My car is an 03 Holden Berlina Wagon, with just over 60,000 miles on it. My only complaints since new have been the paint quality and that the silvery paint on the console can be scratched. Otherwise, no problems.

 

[foster'sguy]

Sorry, but "itsme" and "dctex" sound like retards to me.
If you're not happy, take the hit and get rid of it........sell it to one of your "underlings", you pretentious snob.

 

[Flashpoint]

My car has had zero problems, not even "soft" paint. The only rock chips I have are from a rock that bounced up at the drivers door, and i heard the "ping" that would happen to any car.

No "sandblasted" paint on the front bumper, no paint peeling, I didn't even have the freaked out gauges that is suposed to be "common" on 2004's.

Only thing that was an issue was a battery, which I replaced myself with an optima redtop.

The 2006 struts were a monroe screw up, Holden didn't use the LS2 even when we recieved it, only HSV cars got that "upgrade".

The others are right you will hear problems all the time, but you won't hear I don't have any problems...except when people post stuff like this.

 

[itsme4g63]

Sorry, but "itsme" and "dctex" sound like retards to me.
If you're not happy, take the hit and get rid of it........sell it to one of your "underlings", you pretentious snob.

How do I sound like a retard asking about their build quality? Im not ragging on the cars I’m just damned curious, I know every manufacturer has their problems and when I see the types of problems/posts on this forum I haven’t seen as much complaints on others, and not as much on the ls1 equipped cars. It may be that: ls2’s don’t get much quality control leading to engine failures, not enough testing ahs been performed on the shock system or the manufacturere just used shit material, I don’t know, but I just wanted to see if they had such bad complaints on their side of the pond.

 

[Woz]

Well I have an early build HSV VZ GTO with the LS2. Chassis build date late October 2004, HSV build date late November 2004. Build #11. I have had absolutely no problems with the LS2 (coming up on 30,000km == 18,000 miles), the build quality was great, the dealer prep was almost perfect (left a piece of protective plastic between the rear seats which squeaked).

Complaints -- front spoiler is too low for parking spot concrete barriers; seats too slow (my youngest kids want to ride in the car more and more); work has switched from BP Ultimate 98 to Caltex 98

 

[dctex99]

Some people just want to hear good news...

Well I have an early build HSV VZ GTO with the LS2. Chassis build date late October 2004, HSV build date late November 2004. Build #11. I have had absolutely no problems with the LS2 (coming up on 30,000km == 18,000 miles), the build quality was great, the dealer prep was almost perfect (left a piece of protective plastic between the rear seats which squeaked).

Complaints -- front spoiler is too low for parking spot concrete barriers; seats too slow (my youngest kids want to ride in the car more and more); work has switched from BP Ultimate 98 to Caltex 98 [/QUOTe,

Hard to believe Australia doesn't have these OLD Generation cars dialed in by now;;its not like we get the Newest extras like Nav & Auto Temp control;;its like a Chevy to them I guess......

 

[DEVLYLO]

lol, this is a funny thread, first lets set the book strait, i have a 2002 VY CV8 and we had problems with it, every car company has some problems, you cant expect every car to be perfect, but my 04 wich has a december 04 build date is a great car, i havent had any real bad problems, paint quality is good, if you have to many problems with one then its more than likly you got a bad one, ive got a couple of mates in NSW that have Monaros 1 is a CV6 and the others are 8s, the 8s have had the most problems, so they traded them in and got some new VZs now there happy, just goes to show you not every car is perfect.

 

[Flashpoint]

Hard to believe Australia doesn't have these OLD Generation cars dialed in by now;;its not like we get the Newest extras like Nav & Auto Temp control;;its like a Chevy to them I guess......

There were plenty of changes made for the US, it isn't 100% new but not 100% old either.

I have a rather early build 2004 pontiac gto, with no issues, except the battery which just about all original batteries were screwed due to the long shipping.

 

[Bluemeaniews6]

Ok, I've been working at a dealership in CO since the original 04's were shipped so I've watched them roll in and out. From what I've seen the 04's had the most serious problems as two of them have been replaced by 05's by General Motors as there was some issue with the electrical system throwing every code possible and not allowing the car to start. These seem to be the bad apples as none other than those two have even darkened our service door and remember these cars are under warantee so it would be a waste to drive elsewhere. As for the paint flaws, several things to consider as a US buyer. These cars are SHIPPED from australia, long hours in a boat's hold in high humidity isn't good for freshly curing paint. Then, once they hit our shores they are shipped BY TRAIN to a central railhead during which time they are pelted by by dirt at a high rate of speed. Every car shipped in the US has this problem and it is solved by a Clay Bar. All this being equal the major problem is the use of a chemical solvent called R4 to take excess adhesive off the cars and it really shouldn't be used although it is, or used very seldom as it tends to make our paints "soft".
Now, as for other car companies. TOYOTA the endless cry of the unimformed and hopelessly ricer recalled over 500,000 vehicles this year, more than any other car company for massive defects in no less than the air bag system which was solved by locking the air bags in a state of on allowing them to go off at any time in all full size trucks, defects so severe in the awd matrix/vibe that they discontinued the awd option for 2007 but didn't actually recall or warantee the problems *pontiac actually did a recall with the vibe*, and ther were many other recalls ranging from the not even released yet corrolla to the new "FJ" which by the way is forced to use premium octane only.
The only reason you aren't hearing about these companies is that, well at least in the Toy car companies case, they chose not to acknowledge the problem.
So if that helps clear up this little convo I'm glad. If the bashing of a really wonderful, albeit a bit stopgapish, car design then that just proves idiots do reproduce.

 

[The Black Phantom]

There isn't an inordinate amount of problems w/ 05', though there is an acknowledged issue w/ the '06 struts. But everyone knows there are issues w/ every type or brand of car, including 4G63's....I can't tell you how many times my old Mitsu needed tranny work.

The people who come on the forums are those who have problems and are looking for advise. How many threads do you see on the forums where people say "I HAVE 20K MILES, TROUBLE FREE...JUST WANTED TO SHARE!"? None, b/c no news is good news and the people on the forums are those who have issues.

If you took every complaint on the forums as gospel, you'd believe that ALL M3's used to have exploding engines, Mitsu's have horrible trannys, and Toyota's are sludge machines.

Given the above problems that plague other manufacturers, I'll take my burnt out LED, and rattle in the shifter.

+1, I had a very minor problem with mine that was fixed under warranty. I have not had a single problem since. Anything manufactured on a assembly line is gonna have a 1 in several thousand produced that does not match the quality of the rest. If you've got a car that has many problems, trade it. Most members of the forum have had few if not zero problems.

 

[foster'sguy]

How do I sound like a retard asking about their build quality? Im not ragging on the cars I’m just damned curious, I know every manufacturer has their problems and when I see the types of problems/posts on this forum I haven’t seen as much complaints on others, and not as much on the ls1 equipped cars. It may be that: ls2’s don’t get much quality control leading to engine failures, not enough testing ahs been performed on the shock system or the manufacturere just used shit material, I don’t know, but I just wanted to see if they had such bad complaints on their side of the pond.

You sound like a retard because you can't spell. Yeah, we get the idea, but you still sound stupid.
The engines aren't built in Oz, they're shipped there.
Has - H.A.S.,not ahs.
Manufacturer, manufact.... ah hell, the guys who make the damn thing...
Sorry, you just sound ignorant. And that comes after 100 oz. of beer. Sounded the same before.......otherwise I wouldn't be so nice.
Is English your native tounge?

 

[itsme4g63]

You sound like a retard because you can't spell. Yeah, we get the idea, but you still sound stupid.
The engines aren't built in Oz, they're shipped there.
Has - H.A.S.,not ahs.
Manufacturer, manufact.... ah hell, the guys who make the damn thing...
Sorry, you just sound ignorant. And that comes after 100 oz. of beer. Sounded the same before.......otherwise I wouldn't be so nice.
Is English your native tounge?

Blah, dont tell me you never typed in a hurry when you're at work, spare me the B.S. Built where? OZ?

 

[Ironmancan]

I do not have a gto myself.

Thanks goodness:drink:. Don't waste your time on a new GTO. Go buy a new mustang, G35, 350z, BMW M3 and go out on the street and beat up on some GTO's. If you can even afford it:fawkdance. Feel free to hit up those boards with your stellar comments like

"Hey aussie people, are you 05-06 or ls2/hsv monaros build with such crap quality like the ones we get here?"

Best post of the thread when dealing with ignorance.:judge: :judge:

"Sorry, but "itsme" and "dctex" sound like retards to me.
If you're not happy, take the hit and get rid of it........sell it to one of your "underlings", you pretentious snob.":judge:

 

[itsme4g63]

ahh, you people are too touchy, dont get your panties in a bunch. Mods please delete this thread.