Not 100 yards out of dealers lot and a 69 charger challanged my 04 ( Side Effect i call him) from rolling at 35mph he dropped it only 1/2 throdle ( due to break in ) we walked away with a smile as the charger lost face. I love Old School don't get me wrong Heck i traded my 68 bird for my 04. hurt but worth it. ands cant argue ther facts i was ahead. i love the :zzz: effect and will stay with it.