Wtf?

If I don't see some info from Pontiac real soon I know what I'll be buying and it WON'T be a Pontiac! GM needs to realize that this is not the stone-age anymore! Information travels real fast across the internet, not like the good ol' days when you could do just about what you wanted and nobody would catch on! Some of you young guy's should apply for a job in PR at GM, God knows they need some help! This is getting ridiculous. I don't know about you guy's but with all I'm hearing about new models in the pipeline I might just forgo this purchase for a while and see what everyone else has to offer. There is a growing trend among the guy's I talk to that this car is going to get cheaper as time passes. Somehow I'm just not as hyped up about the GTO as I was a while back. I will be going out again this weekend to do a little car shopping as I don't see my GM loyalty getting me anywhere.

But do all these delays equal 3 months? That seems to be an average delay some people saw with their TPW. Some had September or October dates and all the sudden they are December. When I originally ordered, Jason had estimated my TPW would be late December/early January and I'd see the car by March. Now my TPW is early March which means I won't see the car until June'ish. That's 10 f*cking months since I ordered it! That's a lot of time to change ones mind. That's a lot of time for those of us who thought about possibly selling a vehicle. If I were, I wouldn't put it up for sale now because by March it may be gone then I'm down 1 vehicle for several months. Then there is finance issues! Had I known it was gonna be this long, instead of paying down a lot of other stuff (which is always a good thing mind you) in anticipation of another loan, I'd have just have blown the money on a supercharger for the 8.1!

Kinda see what I mean? It's not just "getting" the car itself. It's all the other items around it that people have to plan and/or prepare for! Had I known back in August that I wouldn't have seen the car for nearly a year after I ordered it, I probably would've gone another route. Like I said, a blower for the truck, a 12 bolt rear for the Camaro, etc, etc. But I've put a lot on hold for this thing.

I've ordered numerous vehicles from GM, mostly trucks. At most the entire wait was 3 months total from the time I dropped the down payment till I had the keys in my hands! At every step of the way, I knew where my trucks were by acccess to Dealerworld. When the vehicles were given VIN#'s, I started checking daily in VIS for build updates and sure enough when all the major components came down got scanned and assembled, I saw it.

The only difference here is that the vehicle is not made on our ground. However, last time I checked, Australian's spoke the Queens English and not Swahelie (sp?). So I do not understand this "lack of communication" between parent and subsidiary. This subsidiary is also been building cars for 50 years and this current model (the Monaro) since 1997, so why all the sudden are all these "quality" issues popping up? If I were GM, I'd be sending down some bigwigs down under to "sort" things out if you follow my drift!

DevilYellow said:

In reality look how quick they made this car go from concept to in our driveways ..... the monaro usually hits 3,000 cars a year. I think Pontiac is still doing good and once the cars are delievered noone will complain about this wait.

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I do agree that once the cars are here no-one will remember much about all this. I'm not at all concerned about when my car will arrive because I live in Northeastern Michigan and the weather doesn't get nice enough to drive a car that I don't plan to put more than 2,000 quality fun miles a year on before April or May. What has me so frustrated is the lack of information from Pontiac on the GTO. When do you suppose they will launch this thing? If they continue in their present mode they'll probably launch it on Xmas day while we're all doing something else! It would be a great time to sneak it in without anyone knowing. I guess I just expected to much. All the rumors going around about mid-year happenings, hood scoops (not that I want one mind you), body style changes, ect...... just add to the frustration of it all! It does make me think waiting and looking around more might be worth it.

I appreciate everyone keeping this civil and not letting it get out of hand. It's a good feeling to be able to voice your opinions without be chastised for them. This is a great site and if it weren't for the good people here I most likely given up on the GTO a long time ago.

EDIT: I totally agree with CMNTMXR57 in the post above.

Regards,

DevilYellow said:

I just talked with Jim at Pontiac. He assures me everything is going out as quickly as they can and any delay is for quality reasons. They do not want any problems what-so-ever with these cars and their goal is to please us right now. The last thing they want is everyone to get their cars and have problems. Danny and Maghut have been in love with their cars and thats #1 right now.

I dont know about you but I sure as hell wont get John Colleti on the phone talking about a cobra. I want a cobra too! but ya know what .... its really just an awesome engine in a crappy car.

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This doesn't change the facts in my case. My car is in this country. It was shipped December 3rd and invoiced december 12th.

It has taken 14 days to go into a black hole that no one seems to either know where it is or be willing to tell me where it is. This is on TOP of all the other issues that have been listed here.

And all this from what is supposed to be GOOD customer service?

1. I'm telling my dealer the info not the other way around
2. Pontiac Corporate sends out hundreds of letters saying for more info on your car, call 1-800-2PONTIAC. Except they have absolutely NO info.
3. I've gotten the product brochure and a catalog and no e-mail. Where are the promised updates of the advance order system?


None of this is address by "Quality Control Delays"